Paul Onuachu has expressed his delight after scoring his first goal for Nigeria in their 1-0 win over Egypt in Tuesday’s friendly.
The forward, making his second appearance for the three-time African champions, fired home a long-range shot with only 10 seconds into the encounter to help Gernot Rohr’s men extend their unbeaten run to seven games.
The Midtjylland striker who is hoping to make the squad for the 2019 Africa Cup of Nations has vowed to work harder in order to continue representing the Super Eagles.
“I am very happy to score my first Nigerian goal in such a nice way, but it was only one game,” Onuachu told BBC Sport.
“To be honest I was also surprised that it came that early in the game but this is football and I can only thank my team-mates.
“I still have a lot of work to do because my dream is to continue to represent my country.
“I would love to play for Nigeria in the Nations Cup but I must fight hard to earn a place among the squad.”
Onuachu who has 14 league goals for Midtjylland this season will look to continue the impressive form when his side take on Nordsjælland on Saturday.
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A real wonder strike. One of the best goals I’ve seen this year. Candidate for Puskas award?
Yes o, the 8 second strike has attracted all manner of talk all over the World. The Guinness Book of Record could be right place for it.
Yes o, the 8 second strike has attracted all manner of talks in all around the World. The Guinness Book of Record could be right place for it.
Onuachu, you have proved to the coach that he doesn’t deserves to be a Nigerian coach. Your performance already indicating why you wasn’t included in the world cup squad.
Your quality says a lot against Egypt and I am so sad to tell you this that coach Rohr will bench you like he did to Simmy and Iwobi in Russia. Same applies Kayode, Onyekuru and Osimeh.
This coach would preferred Ighalo to any striker. I am asking the coach and his fans why Mikel and the rest of the senior players are not getting involved? You guys should see now that I’m talking with sense.
I am talk with facts here and my words always come to pass. Me and some of my colleagues here were shouting every day that this coach is not ready to give us the best and will never ready to do so.
Not that we do not have fantastic players but the coaches in charge of the team and their fans are the main problem of the Super Eagles.
What is the purpose of having a foreign manager that can not be bold enough to tell Nigerians that he is ready for the Afcon and he made mistakes in Russia and this is the time to prove his worth to us but instead, the man has bn given us excuses again. My team is young.
And the most annoying thing is that, some group of people here refused to think ahead of Afcon 2019. This is Afcon not World cup and for Oga Rohr to be talking like this few months to the championship is a disaster.
Instead to encouraged, he discouraged. How long do we want to do this for? That is the main question of the day.
This reminds me Eagles of 80s and 90s. We had so much confidence and hope in the team any day any time but the team we have now is good but still has a lot to work on. I think by now we should be ready for the Afcon.
I am doing what I could because I love my Country. Hmmm…. I am doing this every day because Super Eagles is very important to me and I don’t want the Eagles to fail woefully again. I am not doing this for popularity, fame or to put anybody down.
Therefore, Onuachu and the rest of the new players should count themselves lucky because we as Super Eagles fans are their for them to fight for their rights.
As long as you are a good player and inform, you will play for your fatherland. Lastly, this is the last opportunity for coach Rohr and his fans. They should please grab it with both hands. So that in the end, we shall celebrate together.
Anything less than the Afcon trophy is a failure and there is no room for that this time around. That’s why Nigerians are warming the coach and the NFF president to do more before the tournament. I will keep telling you people, hopefully you guys will listen. A word is enough for the wise. God bless Nigeria!!!
” I am asking the coach and his fans why Mikel and the rest of the senior players are not getting involved?..”
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Awon olodo rabata…! When we tell them to read news and get informed they wouldn’t. Moses retired to concentrate on club football, Onazi had been battling with injuries, Echiejile is a spent force, he has been trialing in finland, Mikel prefers club to country, he says he isn’t still fit enough, yet plays week in week out for middlesbrough. Pls which senior players are you looking for again….??? I thought you said you have ajegunle and iyana-ipaja players that are better than all the super eagles players….pls where are they…?
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“…This reminds me Eagles of 80s and 90s…”
The eagles of 1980’s won just one afcon on home soil (after 3 months camping in brazil), the eagles of 90’s won one afcon (at their 3rd attempt in westerhoff’s 5th year in charge). Yet you are proud of them, but these ones MUST win AFCON. Dont worry…they will shame your and your fellow charlatans as they have been doing on regular basis…I know your group hasn’t celebrated for a long time because the eagles keep peeing in your faces….they will still do same at this afcon. Watch the space
Drey you re better then this guys men you re good.
Happy people, listen, whether we like it or not, Rohr has done some good things for this Super Eagles but overall he has not done enough to be accepted.
Can’t you see what I am seeing? how can a coach achieve all these great things yet have critics who want to see him go?
I will tell you. I will not sacrifice qualifying for tournaments with games to spare for good football.
Rohr’s football is too predictable. His substitutions leaves a lot to be desires. His insistence on some players are beyond comprehension and his press conferences do not instil confidence.
He invited Olanrewaju Kayode only to give him few minutes against Argentina and drop him altogether when this same player would have scored the chance his Ighalo missed against Argentina.
That is the past and we move on but not enough has happened for this coach to show the likes of us that he has learnt from the errors of his past.
He can win the Africa Cup of Nations, why not? If he can win Algeria, Cameroon and Egypt, of course he can win the Cup of Nations but will he win my heart and mind? Doubtful.
Mr Rohr knows how to use his boys to win African opponents no doubt (I am not oblivious to his Super Eagles records).
But, what he does not know how to win is universal hearts and minds.
Time and time again, this German divides opinion. From those who think he in the best coach after Westerhof to those who will prefer perennial Super Eagles underachiever like Siasia to him. That in itself speaks volumes.
To those who think I am living in sadness and bitterness, verily verily I say unto you, nothing can be further from the truth.
I have climbed the mountain and seen the promise land. I am at peace with my stance.
A coach who plays predictable football with predictable players by predictable formation will never win my heart and mind regardless of results.
That is me.
May this weekend bring you and your families joy plus happiness (amen)
“how can a coach achieve all these great things yet have critics who want to see him go?”
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You obviously have not been following trends on this forum. The answer to your question is simple…even you have answered it yourself…those who want him to go do so Simply because their favored players are not getting invitation. These are players that the coach had in the past extended several invitations to and even featured them in matches…this same kayode you are talking about has all his 4 senior caps under G. Rohr…the same way Musa Muhammed has all is 5 invitations under G. Rhor. They all had their chances to stake a claim for further invitations. Players like henry onyekuru, sam kalu and sam chukwueze didnt need full 90 mins of football to win the heart of the coach and earn further invitations….a player like musa muhammed made his debut and played 3 90mins games under this same rohr…but couldn’t tie down a shirt ahead of the likes of shehu, aina, ebuehi etc. whom sane observes would agree have also done fantastically well in that position…..yet some people have taken G.Rohr’s name to Arusi afikpo just bcos their favoured players who didnt measure up when given a chance and arent even better than the ones in the team now are not getting invitations. Infact they will rather rubbish the good things the current players are doing at the moment. Ighalo scores a hatrick against libya..they say libya is a fishermen team….why did other strikers too not score hattrick against the fishermen teams in their groups, afterall, every afcon qualifying group has 1 or 2 whipping boys….they said he only score tap ins….then their favored ‘world class’ striker scores his first and only goal in epl in 20 something matches this season against newcastle…also a tap in..and they celebrate to high heavens. They say he’s only scoring penalties as if goals scored from the penalty spot in open play doesnt add to the total goals all legends of football have in their records.
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“A coach who plays predictable football with predictable players by predictable formation will never win my heart and mind regardless of results”.
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Please will you prefer him to play disjointed football, with no patterns, no formation and with no known starting eleven…? Does Pep guardiola not have a pattern, does diego simeoni not have, does mourinho not have, can you tell me you cant list Jurgen klopp’s starting 11 for the next league game, or pochettino’s or any of these other top coaches….? I’m yet to see a coach who knows his onions who doesn’t have his own starting formations, starting XI and defined pattern or style of football. You say he doesn’t know how to do substitutions, yet no team has ever come from behind to beat the SE in his 26 matches in charge, while his team has scored in 15 of those 26 matches after he made substitutions. Fine some of his subs may not have worked….as a matter of fact, not all subs work, but that doesn’t make the coach a bad at substitution. Rohr might not be a Mario Zagallo or Arrigo Sachi, but he has done a decent job. If NFF sacks him today, believe me he will be leading another team at AFCON in July…not like some people who have been out of job (be it club or international) for the past 3 years and still counting.
The coach doesn’t need to win your heart…you didn’t hire him, you dont pay his salaries and you cant fire him. He only needs to win the heart of his employers and that is it…and with the way things are going, he looks to be doing more than just winning the hearts of his employers.
We need to always celebrate the principles of democracy and free speech for they are the foundation of any civil society that is tolerant of diversity and polarity of views.
My fellow clansman said a lot above however one thing jumps to me.
He said the coach doesn’t need to win my heart because I don’t pay his salary, hmm, interesting.
It has now become a crime to expect a coach of a team I support from my childhood to win my heart. So coaches are only answerable to their employers and not loyal painstaking fans, interesting.
Let us continue to celebrate our democracy and the freedoms that flow directly from it…
We all have our points of view after all, we cannot all sleep and face the same direction.
Let us celebrate our diversity, not only in culture, ethnicity and race but also in our entrenched beliefs, positions and points of view.
Only then will we be able to live in a tolerant society, tolerant of the fact that others will not necessarily see things the way we do. It does not then mean we should shove our own opinions down their throats.
We celebrate with people we agree with and do the same with those we don’t necessarily share opinions.
Happy weekend my people.
What shall it profit a coach if he wins your heart (when you didnt hire and cant fire him) and suffers the loss of the hearts of his employers who can (who hired and can fire him)…?
Thank you drey you re always on point thank you.
Drey, I must simply attest that your write ups and backings are distinct.
Allow me just ask the likes of Peterside and Omo9ja this question.
Currently, which player in the Super Eagles squad do you think should not make it to the AFCON putting into consideration the 23 Man-Squad.
Please,just name them.
Hmmmm, my clansman asks me a question which I am happy to take on.
The NFF employed Gernot Rohr (or any coach), not for their own gratification but to serve the people (fans).
How does the coach serve the people? He selects teams to play quality football, win matches and add to the trophy cabinet.
If the people (fans) are happy, then the coach’s employers are happy and the coach lives to see another match at least.
You can argue (with data and justification I might add) that this German is winning matches and getting results.
This is making many fans happy so his employers are consequentially happy.
However, there are pockets of people who are not fully satisfied and I am unashamed to refer to myself as one of them.
The love I have for my country and my people far outweighs the dissatisfaction I feel for a coach whose good results only masks cracks which some of us are uncomfortable to let to be slip under the carpet.
He can win the Afcon, in fact he can win the World Cup, I couldn’t care less. I will celebrate these victories as a full blooded Nigerian whose allegiance is to my country and my people rather than to a coach that failed in other African countries only to succeed because of the Super talented players that Manu Garba, Emmanuel Amuneke and Stephen Keshi (Balogun, Omeruo, even Ighalo) have dropped in his lap.
You talk about club football coaches having a defined pattern and predicable starting 11. Anybody who thinks the dynamics around club football are exactly the same as national team football seriously needs their heads examined.
Time and time again, this coach plays boring football with the same core of players totally devoid of dynamism or any panache.
He has had over 3 years yet we are still yearning for a credible number 10, options in number 9 and goalkeepers that are better than adequate.
I respect your views and will celebrate with you whenever we win because, regardless of what you may think about me or my views, you are still a fellow clansman.
Why should Rohr give a toss about me, so long as more of you are happy, then the NFF will be happy and he will be happy.
Maybe one day Nigeria will crash out of a tournament but still come out on top as one of the most entertaining teams in the tournament just like Afcon and World Cup 94 and Chan 2014.
Look at the quality of football played at the Chan 2014, exceedingly enthralling and entertaining not this kick-and-follow football that (admittedly) gets results.
Happy weekend my people.
“However, there are pockets of people who are not fully satisfied”
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Thank God you said pockets of people. Even Jesus christ had more than pockets of people who weren’t satisfied with him. There are pockets of people who arent satisfied with even God almighty…when the rain falls, they complain….when the sun shines..they complain. So if pockets of people aren’t satisfied with this coach, it is their own headache. In life not everybody is happy when good things happen
“I will celebrate these victories as a full blooded Nigerian whose allegiance is to my country and my people rather than to a coach that failed in other African countries only to succeed because of the Super talented players that Manu Garba, Emmanuel Amuneke and Stephen Keshi (Balogun, Omeruo, even Ighalo) have dropped in his lap”
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Now you want to downplay he coaches efforts by insinuating super talented players were dropped in his laps….pls what did the world class coaches who didnt qualify us for 3 of the last 5 afcons do with the super talented players dropped in their own laps. Pls tell us which country doesn’t rely on its home grown talents from previous years to succeed. Pls tell us one coach ever in football who discarded a whole team after taking over. You see how hatred makes people think…? Pls tell us ur definition of failure and how rohr ‘failed’ in other African countries. Failure is relative….Guardiola won the double twice with Bayern in Germany but was said to have failed….Ranieri won a fluke league titled and was even rewarded with a national honour in Italy. Gabon’s highest placing ever in Africa was under the guidance of Gernot rohr….no coach has yet taken them as far as AFCON quaters. He didnt even stay more than a few months in B/faso…..and pls kindly show us one manager who hasn’t failed before. And pls Why do managers splash hundreds of millions just to sign one player. Every farmer needs the right tools, the right seeds, the right soils, the right agricultural practices and the right weather for him to expect a bountiful harvest. If your is managing to churn out results with the super-talented players dropped in his laps…then give him credit for that…..we had far super talented players in the past, but would need A to beat B and C to draw with D for us to have a chance to qualify for tournaments….that is even if we ever stood the chance of qualifying in the first instance.
“You talk about club football coaches having a defined pattern and predicable starting 11. Anybody who thinks the dynamics around club football are exactly the same as national team football seriously needs their heads examined.”
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Then that means you need to get you head examined. if only you understood this dynamics, you woundnt be complaining he “”plays predictable football with predictable players by predictable formation””. Pls how many days of camping does national team coaches have with their players, how many matches to national teams play in a year, how many of these are low stakes matches eg friendlies, that you are expecting to see 11 different set of players, with 17 different formations and 35 different styles of play every time the team lines up for a match. Do you know how difficult it is to teach a group of kids a topic today, and next class you find another group in class and have to teach them what you taught the previous class and the 3rd class you find another group completely different from the 1st two and then still have to teach topic 1……pls when will you ever complete the syllabus it that scenario persists. That is what many of you who hate Rohr want….11 different players everygame. Every jack and harry that scores a goal, makes an assit, completes a pass, blocks a shot, makes a tacle….so far he holds a nigerian passport must be invited immediately for the next match. Im sorry to diasppoint you…It doesnt work that way and WONT WORK
“He has had over 3 years yet we are still yearning for a credible number 10, options in number 9 and goalkeepers that are better than adequate.”
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If only 3 positions remain to be fixed out of 11 in 3 years..then the coach is working. Coaching experts say it takes at least 5 years to build a solid national team…..that’s about 2.2 positions per year…going by your submission above rohr has fixed 2.7 positions in 3 years….that’s not bad in any way. The man is working.
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A coach can only be said to have failed if he doesnt meet the deliverables set for him by his employers. His desire to stay and his employers have the final say. There are 2 categories of coaches….those who have been sacked and those who are about to be sacked. Every coach’s romance will end someday…..Gaurdiola’s own ended at barca and bayern…Mourinho’s own ended at chelsea, madrid etc, even arsene wenger who many grew up associating with arsenal (my kids would always ask if he owned the club) eventually was let go. Did it mean they were bad…NO.
That is just the way football is. and just like i always say….all of you who want him out will someday have your day of job….but unfortunately, it isnt anytime soon….that’s what pains me most for many of you guys.
….day of joy…..
CSN wen will u gyz give us an edit button o…!
Rohr’s game is so predictable yet he had won 16, drew 4 and lost just 6 and only south Africa being the only African Country. That is a record of 20 unbeaten out of 26 games. That doesn’t look predictable to me.
@Drey and the rest of the progressive minded people I dough my hat for you.Drey you almost single-handedly said it all,just to lean my voice to urs.
Firstly,@Peterside,it need be stressed that no one said u don’t have a right to say your mind or make ur point.Infact am one of the proponents of freedom of speech and that of thought, however,what we condemn ie I and other progressive minded on this platform is unjust,unfair,unguided,uncouth and unobjective criticism.In other words we abhor condemnation rather than criticism.
With respect,as much as I hold u and Omo9ja in esteem you both always seem to deviate from the actual issue by delving into non-issue,u abadone reality to deal with vague matters.
I’l give you examples of such issues.You both keep mentioning Musa Muhamed,who was so good during the under 17 days that we expected great things from him but who at the same time has fissle out.You expect Gr to invite him to SE where he’s not even considered good enough for the under 23.Recently,the under 23 needed urgent help to upturn a two goals deficits against Libya and several players were called up but this same Musa was not on the list even when he’s counter pact were called, is that the player u want called up to SE to bench who!!Abdullahi who immediately returned back to his position after his injury ,which is a testimony of his quality in his club,or Ola Aina who currently is one of the best full backs in Italy to mention but a few (Tyronne) shall return soon and Musa is no where close to his Quality.Dont get me wrong Musa is good,but as it stands we have capable hands in his position already.
It bit me hollow to hear one say GR does not deserve to be Eagles coach just because Igalo remains his preferred striker.the apposite question at this point is,is Igallo delivering answer yes he’s delivering.Goroud keep making the starting line for French team yet a bench warmer.He was in the team that won the world cup and started every game,yet a bench warmer.Havent u wondered why a coach would pick a bench warmer Goroud over a fantastic striker Lacazet? It think u should sack that coach…lollll….the answer to that is wat is called team chemistry.A sound coach will consider the players that can easily gel together and when they do will never do anything to break that chain of coercion except u r a merci or Ororo.Team chemistry is the reason an Igalo will remain our preferred striker except injury strikes above others,apart from the obvious fact that he’s more experienced and better,at least he has shown in the qualifiers with 7 goals while the revered Mo Salah is having just 4.
You see this coach has shown in several ways than one that he knows more that you as he has remained consistent even the players attest to It. They attest to the fact that this coach has brought unity to the team and the team plays even better than before.
Finally,@ Uda don’t u think there is something structurally wrong with ur analysis aside being tainted with clear hatred ?otherwise why will a coach not please you even after he would have won a competition? “offcourse he can win the Nation cup,but will he win my heart and mind?doubful”hahaha……..do you call this criticism or a vendetta (one will only wonder if Rr had taken something precious from u and Omogja) well tell us we will return it back so u can let him be.In actual fact that is not criticism just for the avoidance of doubt.Football has gone beyond playing it romantically as beautiful football does not win competition.The last time France played sexy football and won completion was the Zidane era 1998.The recent team did not play good football yet won the last world cup yet the likes of Spain,Germany,Brazil,Portuga and the likes were booted out even with their sexy game.
We all must learn to support this team and criticise where necessary objectively.
Thank you.
Hmmmm, my fellow citizen has spoken and here is my response.
It is not new. In the history of modern society, it is not new to refer to minorities or those with minority views as non-progressives.
It happened in America, it happened it United Kingdom and even in our own Nigeria, some minority groups or people with opinions that are not in majority currency are called all sorts of names and persecuted.
I concede that my stance on Gernot Rohr is not part of a majority narrative, for that, you can called me all sort of names. You can drag my reputation to the mud but history tells me that I am in good company with many who have been persecuted before me.
You say, ‘Havent u wondered why a coach would pick a bench warmer Goroud over a fantastic striker Lacazet? It think u should sack that coach’.
Well, my guy, going by your logic, I have often wondered why a player like Musa Mohammed wasn’t given the sort of extended grace period (after many games of underachievement) that Ighalo was given before his recent rich vein of form?
You call my analysis ‘painted with hatred’ and I say yes. It is painted with hatred for a style of play, approach to team selection and depressing statements in press conferences which I refuse to be associated with.
Who is Rohr? I don’t know the man, I doubt you know him too.
The full parameters of my assessment of this German is limited to his involvement in my national team in a manner that hasn’t won me over.
As a human being, I wish him, his family and his country well. As a coach, I am yet to be won over by the way he manages my national team.
If that is too much for you to comprehend, I cannot help you.
On paper, Mr Rohr has done well. Can he win the Africa Cup of Nations? Absolutely. Going by his records, you have to say the chances are bright.
Dunga won the World Cup with Brazil as a player in 1994 as a player and the Copa America plus Confederations Cup as a coach. Yet Brazilians who reason like me criticised his boring/conservative style of play as coach and want him nowhere near their national team despite his successes as a coach and player.
Like it or hate it, there will always be those with minority views. So you don’t fall victim to what you think you are preaching against (hatred), you better come to terms with the fact that not everyone will see things in the point of view shared by so called majority, or in your words, PROGRESSIVES.
Blessings from above to all my fellow Nigerians
@peterside Udah
As you said,we are all entitled to our opinions because this is a “democracy “;
But with all due respect,there are some opinions that are totally flawed and need “coaching “.
The devil is entitled to his opinion but that doesn’t mean his opinion is right.(and not calling anyone the devil,just an expression),.that said ,whose opinion is right depends on result produced as it relates to the opinion given; and since it is a “democracy “,as it relates to opinion shared on the football space,it is only logical to state the ones with the highest number of support would carry the day.
Drawing from this and relating it to your own assertion,”the coach is winning matches and many fans are happy,the employers are happy…”..so the pocket of fans ,you Stated,that are not happy,becomes totally inconsequential and irrelevant; as many are happy with the coach..so the coach is fine.
So because some of these players been utilized by Rohr were nurtured by ex coaches,that means he hasn’t done anything significant?? You do know that most of the same players today were used by Keshi,yet he failed to qualify to the Afcon,even as defending champions.and Oliseh couldn’t even manage some of this players,causing his resignation..
Rohr is a better manager of players than any of your aforementioned names.the results speaks for itself.
You can see how he brought back Ighalo from a disastrous World Cup to become the highest scoring player in this qualification.
You can see how he managed Balogun from a bit player to a substantial player in the super eagles now..majority of our boys lacking in confidence before,has grown ; not forgetting,how most of our foreign born players are now eager to dawn the green and white jersey now,the players are always early to camp and ready for business unlike in the past.Rohr knows his onions..
He has 3 years and we are doing good,growing In every game,and we as fans are spoiled with wins,home and away,at least in the Africa continent,we can wear the Nigerian jersey again with pride and everyone knows we mean business.we are spoilt for choices in terms of quality,yes,it is not unhurt cause we are still short in some department,backup left back,gk,number 10; but if I might ask you,list players that are good enough to take those positions the ones already there..
Every good football analyst knows,every country,even the world champions France,doesn’t have it all,you are always short in one department or so.that’s where football management comes in.you adapt to what you have and use it to the best of your ability;and trust me,Rohr is doing fine in this aspect.as I said,the results speaks for itself…
And my clansman ,you should know,football is not just for entertainment but for trophies..entertainment without results is trash. Any good entertainer out there ,be it in sports or music or movies, is in there to be the best out what he does,or your entertainment doesn’t go further..If your results keeps coming in good,that means you are doing something right.Trust me,wins are always entertaining no matter how boring those wins come..
There is a reason why nobody remember the best Brazilian team to ever graced the World Cup captained by Socrates;they played the most entertaining football yet never won anything; but everyone remembers the Porto,Chelsea,Inter team under Mourinho,parking the bus but getting results..
Yes you can be entertaining and still win, but winning should come first..sad but true…
And for the Chan team of 2014,,please tell me,where are most of them;and I am not just talking of the Nigerian team,cause I don’t even know where our star player,Uzoenyi is; I am talking about the whole nations that participated;Libya won that tournament,if I can remember..
And to end,you can only beat what’s in front of you. You can’t tell me that at least 75 percent of Rohr’s matches aren’t entertaining..the matches against Algeria,Cameroon,Zambia,South Africa,Uganda,Argentina,England,Iceland,even the last match against Egypt were all entertaining,at least to me.we might have lost some,nevertheless they were entertaining..
And by your admittance,Rohr’s unentertaining football is getting result,and that’s what matters.results…
And Dunga was criticized by sections of the crowd but couldn’t be sack cause his result doesn’t warrant it.
It would be counterproductive and just plain stupid to do it at the time..
And when he was sacked is because the result weren’t coming his way.
Results always carry the day…
Even entertainment seeking fans want to win trophies ..
And Musa Mohammed is not as good as Aina,Ebuehi or even shehu( who in my opinion is worst in that position as compared to aforementioned)..
And you can only have as many in one position..everyone can’t be on the pitch the same time and you can only have like 23 players..we already got two better right backs to Mohammed..
Besides,this player already got his chance,but didn’t take it.life is all about time and chance.
I don’t know of the future,he might improve ,but for now,he doesn’t deserve to be there ,simply put
What chance did Musa get apart from the Athletico Madrid friendly of which he was one of the best performer on that day along Nwakali before the WC??? you people should close your eyes and do like nothing is wrong for a player who is playing in Croatia and our best right back to be ignored because of corruption.
Udah keep the realism and never turn away one day reality will show up even though I wish it will be in the cover so we can win trophies which matters at the end of the day. But one day na one day since results have blinded people even though they can see that things are not right and we play like average teams!
Musa played against Tanzania also
Thank you @Frank. Don’t mind that charlatan who only come here to to expose is immense Odeism.
Mumu 3 years ago he even had a better rating than your superstar Ighalo by putting a solid performance on his debut but mind you I am talking of recent events not 3years ago Ighalo has been given chances but this guy has been given almost no chance pls go back and watch highlights of his matches on SE and also match rating of the 3years ago you have come about from no where https://www.completesports.com/job-well-done-super-eagles-rated-vs-tanzania/
Mr Hush, we should not be too rigid but listen and learn from others.
I have to hold my hands up and say of all that I have read, your contribution resonate with me more than most.
I am so grateful for the way you have laid down your case for if more of us do that, then we will get along as a society.
You are a great man among men and may wisdom never depart your land.
What your contribution has shown me is that I am conflicted.
I want my team to do well yet certain things I see from this coach continues to unsettle me and I have to now go away and find out why.
I shall now begin an intense period of personal introspection and see whether my stance will change in light of your contribution that has struck a cord with me.
God bless you my brother.
Happy weekend to my people.
@peterside Udah
It takes a wise man to know a wise man..
I appreciate you as well
And as I said.
We are all learning
My clansman, you are right. Totally, for those pockets of people who are dissatisfied, others should not take it as their self-appointed birth right to shove their own opinions down the throat of these people who you say, come rain or sunshine they will never be satisfied.
You are right, it is their headache, their perogative. A proverb says that the chicken that urinates but does pass faeces it is that chicken’s problem.
Bring the figures, bring the data, bring the analysis, I am at peace and comfortable with my stance and opinion. I have peace within myself and my fellow man and like I said, sense of national pride will let me celebrate all the victories of the Super Eagles even if it is a donkey that is in charge. I will never turn my back away from my national team.
Yes, I will express my views. Yes, professors like you will present data to oppose my views. But the Super Eagles is bigger than you and me.
My allegiance is to my national team.
Only 3 positions have to be filled in 3 years and you find that acceptable, good for you. I respect your point of view.
You believe I am the one who needs to have my head examined, you are entitled to your points of view.
Yes, even if Coach Rohr was universally accepted his time will come when he will make way.
Despite all the records that Keshi set and created, some still remember him as a man of crime who took bride and assembled mediocre players. It comes with the territory.
We can go up and down, we can talk from now until you go blue in the face. At the very heart of this matter, nothing you say will alter my stance.
You are satisfied with Coach Rohr, good for you. You think my views are rubbish, good for you. You have countless data and facts to oppose everything I say, good for you.
But, the beauty is that we can co-exist with different views and still get along.
@peterside udah
Off course .
We are all entitled to our opinions. We don’t have to keep repeating it to know.we all know that already,that’s why are on this forum..I believe it is written way down ,”that every opinion shared here is the belief of the writer and no one else”; but if we really want our opinions to ourselves,we keep it ourselves and not share It on public forums as such.
I believe we share to learn,and to give those that don’t know, a chance to know,and those that don’t know much,a chance to know better;believe it is a win – win, the teacher is as well the student in life; I don’t have to be a professor to know..but what do I know..
I want to believe our allegiance is always to Nigeria and the super Eagles nothing more.
The team has always been there and would be there even after you and I and Rohr.
And no one can claim he or she loves the national team better than the other; so our opinions are very much needed.
That said,opinions shared ,no matter our beliefs,doesn’t necessarily make it right,and in the world we live in,if the majority is happy with the results,then the majority have their day…
To say Rohr brought in just 3 players in 3years and that makes him bad is totally a funny assertion,you don’t change what’s not broken.you change to make better,and as I said in my earlier post,why Rohr is better than rest before him,he is a better manager. He knows how to manage these players,as in man management,cause as Nigeria,the world knows,we have never lacked talent,not before ,not now,not ever. We are created this way.the problem is management,and Rohr is doing good here..
and I am not here to change your stance; I am here to make you see reasons why I think Rohr is doing a good job and he needs your support.not because of Rohr,but as you said,cause of the country,Nigeria.
I believe my clansman,would continue to criticize and we all get to get enlightened the best way we can ,from each of our opinions.
As for me,Rohr is on the right path..
And yeah.. I do have data; using a free wifi..wish you are at my end,so I can share with you
Mr Hush, sorry (my entry above was actually directed at Dr Drey).
Sorry.
@peterside Udah
My apologies for the misunderstanding
Lol! @peterside. Yes the SuperEagles is bigger than everyone and it’s not anybody’s property. No doubt you’ve raised some valuable points as regards an adequate number 10 and maybe a substantial number 2. However, we do have options in those positions. Aina, Simon, and a fit Ebuehi can play the right back role with aplomb particularly Aina who is becoming one of the best wing backs in world football.
Iwobi in all honesty is good enough for the number 10 role in the present SuperEagles. I think his best position on the field is left wing where he can cut in and make assists or get in a goal scoring position. Mikel had played that role with integrity over the years and was very fantastic under Rohr during the WorldCup qualifiers. I think this dude at Club Brugge Dennis Bonaventure might be the answer. Hopefully he can get a call up in the 30 man provisional AFCON list. Azubuike Zubby can also play that role even though he’s a cultured CM. Kelechi Iheanacho can also be an option in that role. All players who’ve been on the gaffers raider.
You said the SuperEagles are boring under Rohr. Dude I’m sure you didn’t watch the recent Egypt friendly and you probably didn’t watch the away qualifier against Libya. Of course Rohr is not going to be the SuperEagles coach forever. Coaches go coaches come, it is what it is. You’re as good as your last match and the last time I checked the SuperEagles just won two games in a row. In terms of football, I can careless about the psychological orientation of a pocket of fans this is the best I’ve seen the SuperEagles play since the days of Westerhoff.
Good you agree with me about Dennis as 10 truth is beginning to pan out but Rohr didn’t see this truth to invite him alongside Okereke for Egypt match. Was he blind or was Dennis flying back to Saudi as well???
Liar!! When did you ever talked about Dennis?? Was he not invited to the DreamTeam?? Rohr was the one who recommended him to Imama if you care to know because you don’t know jack.
The one person on this forum, who is also my sparing partner even though we both respect each other’s opinions that talked about Dennis was SunnyB and I agreed with him on that. Mikel to me is the best we have at that position at the moment as we need a number 10 that can shoot from outside the area. Mikel will soon retire so we need a substantial number 10.
And Dennis fit the bill going forward since Iwobi is very fantastic playing from the left wing for Arsenal.
Although it’s not as if we don’t have options, as Iwobi for now is the most creative among the midfielders we have presently. Iheanacho can also play the role if given the confidence. Etebo played the role at the WorldCup, but was underwhelming. Hopefully Dennis keep his form till the end of the season to earn a call up.
@ Mr Hush.
I have had some time to think and these are my points enumerated.
1. Yes, it would have been counterproductive to sack Dunga when he was getting results despite his uninspiring style of play. However, when the good results dried up and he was eventually shown the door, critics like me would have said, ‘we told you so’ or ‘we saw it coming long ago’. But, your point is valid that it doesn’t make sense to sack a coach who is doing well despite the uninspiring brand of football that he is playing.
2. Regarding democracy, the opinion with the largest currency or consensus should carry the day. I totally agree with you. Does that then mean that we should shut down debate or instantly rubbish alternative opinions or deliberately tarnish the reputation of minority groups or people with minority opinions? I think not.
3. Is it a crime for Rohr to use players that have been originally nurtured by others? No, it is not a crime. In fact, he did discover players of his own like Ebuehi and Collins. However, his stubbornness of playing the same core of players for extended periods (I would argue) have meant that many other players have arguably being underutilised. Before the professors of these world crusify me, I think Ebuehi, Ogu, Iwobi, Simmy were either brought in very late or wholly under-utilised at the World Cup.
4. Okay, Musa Mohammed is not better than the other options we have. Was Ighalo and Iheanacho the best combo we had going into that match against Argentina? I am only asking this question to find out the root cause of my problem with this coach.
5. You are so right that entertaining football with nothing to show for it in the way of trophies is nothing to write home about. You will also want to agree with me that winning any tournament with boring football will always only be remembered for the trophy. No fan with have nostalgic tendencies to revisit such a tournament in the future (just my opinion, you might disagree). I still watch some Rio 2014 World Cup matches with pride.
6. Rohr is getting results and indeed that is all that matters. For the records, I am basking in the euphoria of the good results as a Nigerian. However, I revisit very few of these matches on YouTube because I just cannot connect with the brand of football I am seeing. I love the results on paper but hate the football on the screen.
As I said, I shall continue my period of introspection as you truly have got me thinking but, as things stands, there appears to be little to make me sway my opinion, but you never know.
You never know…….
This is the response for Mr Hush. Thank you sir. (the other one you responded to was meant for Dr Drey.)
“Rohr is getting results and indeed that is all that matters. For the records, I am basking in the euphoria of the good results as a Nigerian. However, I revisit very few of these matches on YouTube because I just cannot connect with the brand of football I am seeing. I love the results on paper but hate the football on”. Try and revisit the last match against Egypt and the Away game against Libya even our away game against SA. Please do me a favor make sure you’re not watching those games from the back of your computer/Laptop/Tablet.
OK sir. I will do exactly that and re-watch these matches with a fresh pair of eyes.
Maybe my feelings towards this coach are clouding my thoughts and sense of judgement.
But I am not making any promises about changing my views. My views are currently too entrenched to just change overnight but I will try.
Thank you sir.
Happy weekend all…
@peterside Udah
You have asked valid questions,and I do respect them.it shows you deep thinker,and retrospective of your thoughts,more importantly,you are lover of good football..
Permit me to answer your questions accordingly,(more so,to the best of my knowledge);
1.Dunga boring football won trophies,and fans of samba football weren’t happy,yet he wasn’t sacked cause he was getting results.even as such ,the fans for entertaining football still complained; when he got sacked after dried spells,they said “I told you so”..be rest assured,if Dunga had carried on winning with his boring football and never sacked,such fans would still keep complaining.such is life,you can’t please everyone ; you can only do your best and let the actions speak for you,and majority of the fans are happy,good, if your employers are happy,even better;and if the trophies keeps coming in,nothing much better than that…
2. For me,democracy is overrated; just because not everytime the mob gets it right,a select few might be right,but it is only irrepressible that the crowd always carry Day,it is just what it is as it relates to such doctrine,we might not like it but we have to live it with;cause 7 out of 10,democracy gets it right..
And no ,democracy doesn’t shut down opinions,in fact ,it encourages it ,and that’s why you and I and everyone else are sharing our thoughts on here;whether our opinions are right or wrong doesn’t arise ,and if such,would be judged by the public,and as it is,the majority would carry the day,even if our minority points are out there.it is what it is ..
3. And 4.
Every coach has his style;it might work ,it might not.id it doesn’t work.you are fired,if it does work,you enjoy your stint.
Most European nations ,stick to the same group of players they trust in,they are highly firm,they don’t just tweak,no matter what the fans think or how good a player who is not in this group is doing out there..
You can see the French team under Deschamps has remained the same,even before the World Cup and after the World Cup; good players like Martial,Ben yadder,Laporte, Haller are out there doing well,but hardly breaking in,when players like sissoko, thauvin, are there.. same for Portugal,players like Semedo,Jota,Mario Rui,hardly plays..same for Germany,who just changed their squad for the first time this year since the 2014 World Cup,and they just let go of 3 players just because of age..look at the English team under Southgate,95percent same since he took over,just 2 or 3 new faces;Rice,Odoi..nothing more..and same for Croatia,Serbia,Switzerland.
You get my drift..
Rohr is European from that school of thought..they build a team,a group of players they are comfortable with,and they don’t just change unless it is highly necessary maybe through injury or age or someone doing so good,the majority( I used majority) of the fans,and employers are like no,invite this player..
And for Ighalo and Kelechi,yes at the time of the World Cup,they were our best..tell me who was better..simi? He was at the World Cup.okpotu?odey?untested,you can’t risk that at the World Cup..kayode,wasn’t even regular in his club after injury.onuachu was a greenhorn.good at his club but that is Denmark,we can’t just take him to the World Cup..you put him into the team gradually and that’s what the coach is doing right now with him and Osinhem.
5 and 6..
Yes.. everyone love entertaining football,every fan want to win and be entertaining at the same time,but most would take winning over entertainment.there is nothing more nostalgic than that feeling of being a champion..history is told through the eyes of the winners..
How does it feel when you look back at US 94 squad match against Italy,we were so entertaining but we lost..everyone,including the coach ,keeps saying ,why didn’t we just defend , we were almost there.
When you look back at the career of great Okocha and see his dribbling skills on YouTube,what comes through your mind when he stands next to Ronaldhinho..
Most people are like,Okocha could have been much more if he has been more serious and focus like Ronaldinho..
Yes,entertaining is good;
But entertaining without results is trash.
Results no matter how it comes,is what matters.
It is sad,but that’s what football has become ..it is all about results now..
Fantastic analysis Mr. Hush.
Hehehehehe….Ashy Slashy is back…..Yaaayyyy….!!!
First they call me Omo9ja, now it is classy Ashley or Ashley Blashy. Later it will be Lagbaja.
Heaven help us…..
Hahahaha….did I mention any names…???.
Omo elefo, carry your efo come here make we buy, e say may efo nor be yesterday own…..abeg who ask am question….???Lolz
In that case, sorry sir. I have just been called more names than I can ever remember!!!!
Peace unto you.
@peterside Udah. @Dr. Drey. @Mr. Hush. I really enjoyed reading from you all and also the rest of people I didn’t mentioned. What I discovered is that you are talking about the SE positively. This really give me joy. God bless all of you
We have these debates in the spirit of warmth, peace and happiness.
Though I have differing views with the comrades you mentioned, I stand with them shoulder to shoulder in supporting this great team known only as the Super Eagles of Nigeria.
We have many different views but only one team and behind that team, you, me, Drey, Ayphily and others solidly stand (no shaking).
The Rohrs of this world will come and go but they will not take our team with them. It is only the memory plus legacy they leave behind that will matter.
God bless you all.
Please this was the last match Musa played for Nigeria and was never given a chance yet those who know football will tell you he is the best Right back at the moment. And mind you all Ola aina is a left wing back at Torino where he has been doing well not even as a left back or right back so we must get our facts right and note the difference between Wing back and full back and to those who are ignorant go back to school because you can not give what you don’t have which is simple intellect. Politics is the root of Musa’s absence and Nigeria must call back for this guy else we will loose a guy in the form of Alaba who happens to be a great left back at Bayern. https://owngoalnigeria.com/2018/05/22/super-eagles-b-2-3-atletico-madrid-player-ratings-kelechi-nwakali-wins-motm-award-femi-thomas-shines/
Sule. If we adopt a 3-5-2 formation Aina will be extremely vital at either end. In a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 Musa Muhammed is not better than a Torino player in that role. You don’t like Musa Moh more than I do. I believe he will still have his chance again maybe through the Olympics if we qualify. For now Aina, Ebuehi or even Moses Simon are allies better than him in that role at the moment.
So politics is also the reason why Ahmed Musa, Shehu Abdullahi, Jamilu and co are in the SuperEagles abi??? How more dumb can you be? Musa Moh played against Luxembourg and Mali and also competitively against Tanzania under Rohr. Obviously, he acquitted himself really well in those games, but his club career was dwindling at the time. He went to Bulgaria then later Croatia where he’s now playing regularly.
Meanwhile, thank god Rohr is the coach not you. How will the coach leave out players from the La Liga, Scudetto or Liga NOS for a player in a backwater league????? Let Musa continue his development through the DreamTeam that looks like a real DreamTeam since Atlanta 96. All thanks to Rohr and his recommendations to help the coaching crews. Yet some people whose brains should be replaced with that of a Chimpanzee maybe they will even have some sense can never see that.
@peterside Udah, God bless you bro. I can see in you that you are well trained. I can see that you have home training. I can see the level of your understanding. You have a class and you deserves some respect.
This is what I have been saying all this while that we don’t need to use abusive words before making a point.
However, my advice to you Mr. Udah, be cautioned with this people. You have proven your worth to each and everyone of them. For me, I do not belong in any group but as long as Nigeria is moving forward, I am satisfied. Be wary of them.
If I may ask, where is kingmaker today? This group have kicked him out of this forum. Because that man was fighting for his fatherland. He becomes an enemy to them.
Finally, what else can I say, you have said it all. Can you imagine, Aina and Sheu are better than Musa Muhammed?
The best players for that position are Musa Muhammed and Ebuehi.
Jamilu Collins and Udoh are the best for the left back position.
Coach Rohr should make Ezenwa No1 goalkeeper. 20 minutes is what Uzoho needed for now. As a good coach, you can’t just throw a young man like him on the pitch just like that. In fact, Uzoho have done well so far.
I am expecting Onuachu, Osemeh and Adi taken over from Ighalo after this year Afcon. Ighalo have done his best for the Country but he is not a Super Eagles material if to say the coach is doing our Country a favour. I am begging coach Rohr to just compensate Ighalo by adding his name to the final list of this year Afcon. Ighalo has been struggling in the national team since his day one. No doubt he has bn doing fine at club level and he also has a good personality. He should be rewarded and 2019 should be his last tournament for Nigeria.
More so, coach Rohr deserves some class but can nott have it all. I appreciate him a lot in fact, I used to be his fan before now but I realized that this man doesn’t have what it takes to have a indomitable team.
NFF have two options to make between now and June. Is either they call on Kanu to help the coach because this is what Kanu really good at and their combination will superb if the NFF can make the move. For sure, we are going to see new Super Eagles with the same players we are having under coach Rohr.
NFF need to invest more on our indigenous coaches. Super Eagles need at least two young local coaches that will be taking over from coach Rohr.
You guys should write today’s date down, foreign coaches can not solve the problem of African teams.
The only problem the African coaches are having is ego. African coaches are better that the Oyinbo coach but they are always wanted to be bossy. I have no problem with foreign coach. They will come and go but this is what Senegal football association saw not quite long and they decided to hire their ex captain to be the coach of the national team.
Watch out for Senegal team in this year Afcon in Egypt. I’m stop here for now. This is not the right time to talk because it is still early to do so. @@peterside Udah, keep up the good work my man. Happy weekend my people. God bless us all. God bless Nigeria!!!
@Ayphillydereat, im glad you agreed with me about Dennis, bro politics aside Dennis and Igbekeme would walk into super Eagles camp anytime and they would grab a shirt.Bro now that we ve agreed on Dennis let’s push for igbekeme inclusion, folks these two ballers can solve our attacking midfield problems.
No qualms SunnyB. I think Dennis is a potential SuperEagles number 10 if he too can also reach his potential like we want for the likes of Iheanacho and Success. Igbekeme is a CM like Azubuike I think I’ll prefer Zubby to Igbekeme at this time based on pedigree. Maybe when Igbekeme takes Zaragoza back to the LaLiga then I can begin to clamor for his inclusion. Although if given the opportunity in a 30 man list it’s up to him to show how good he and we’ll support him.
Gbam!
Bullocks. Opuro Osi, Oniroburuku. Why can’t you go and find where you ever talked about Dennis since you have the time, so that you can distinguish your shameless asshole?? ABOKIMEGORO. Musa’s Debut was against Mali in a friendly match in France after wish he also featured against Luxembourg. You claim to comprehend the English language adequately yet you couldn’t distinguish between an actual debut and a competitive debut OLODORABATA.Tanzania was his competitive debut then Atleti his last outing. It will be difficult for him at this time to dislodge any of Aina, Ebuehi, Shehu or even Simon at right back in the present SuperEagles. He’s still young and learning albeit in a backwater league.
Bro, igbekeme is way better, watch out for him, the guy is our best box to box midfielder for now, I think Rohr will invite the the guy soon, too good to be ignored, we can’t rely on Iwobi alone, he so comfortable with the ball, technically the guy is good.Zubby is more defensive, igbekeme is both l
We’ll see how he performs in camp when invited. If he’s good he can displace someone. Lets see how that pans out
Done with you someone just stated that you’re seeking by force attention no wonder simple fact you can’t understand but you see it as a privilege exchanging words. I hope you get paid with this tantrum.
You can’t comprehend simple English OLODO. Don’t worry about me getting paid. I’m bantering with you if you have the balls continue with me. You always chicken out after you’ve received your nemesis mr dumskull.
Nooooo! don’t be done with me please!!! Continue bantering with me. Why do you always chicken out??? You think you can come here to deceive people with false info and you think I will KAWOGBERA?? Yes I refuse to let that happen by exposing your sentiments. As long as I remain on this forum you will never know peace if all you do is come here and abuse people rather than being constructive. I will always give it back to you the way you want it.